super buu. Turns out it was SSj Gotenks (Pre-RoSaT), who was equal to SSj3 Goku's level (although, this was before Goku stated that, had he went Full Power SSj3 on Majin Buu, he'd kill him). Was Ultimate Gohan stronger than or equal to Super Buu (Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks and Piccolo Absorbed)? "Super Buu has two Kais absorbed in him while Kid Buu has nothing in him" That IS proof. If Goku had continued to train, yes, he would eventually have outpowered Gohan, but as in the end of Z we don't see how strong he's become in those 10 years, all we can do is speculate. Here are my lines of argument: 1. 0 losses. hes a fighting genius in terms of creating powerful techniques like ghost kamikaze in just one week. Then when buu absorbed piccolo and gotenks, his power level was the same as gohan, but he had piccolo's smarts. He thought that a fusion would be a good match for Fat Buu, and I don't blame him because either Gogeta or Vegito would have destroyed Fat Buu in seconds. Kid Buu then pushed it back until SSJ Goku's power plus the spirit bomb's power(including the bulk of everyone's power) was enough. SSJ3 Goku is only on screen for about 2 minutes and kills Hirudagarn. Goku [Ssj3] + Vegeta [Ssj2] vs Ultimate Gohan + Gotenks - May 8, 15; Buutenks vs Ultimate Gohan, Gotenks SSjin3, Goku SSjin3, Vegeta SSjin Enraged - Apr 1, 14; Goku told Majin Buu that "a fighter even stronger then me is coming". toriyama had nothign to do with the american dub so not only is it non canon, its literally fanfiction. So it would go Fat buu, Super buu, Kid Buu. Well gohan was no Mystic when he gave his energy. By this logic Gohan > SSJ3 Goku. He's also definitely stronger than gotenks, because he easily defeated super buu while gotenks was barely stronger than super buu. in fact goku never won a fight by himself. SS2 is only a 2 times multiplier. Although it would be a close fight, i would give a slight edge to Ultimate Gohan. And who the fuck said it wasn't canon? SSJ3 Goku was way stronger than Fat Buu. And when did you actually see Super Buu fight hand to hand? Here's why: after fighting Majin Buu, Goku implied that an even stronger warrior than him was coming. 121.222.11.242 04:05, August 20, 2011 (UTC), "A full powered version of a ssj3 Goku could've beaten Gohan.". Akira toriyama (writer) stated that Ultimate gohan is the strongest unfused character in the buu saga. So i wanna know how the fight would go if ssj3 glku from dragon ball super fought ultimate gohan from DBZ. 9:00. For starters, Gohan couldn't beat Super buu Gotenks absorbed While Goku, who, stated that Buu's power had increased greatly after transforming into kid buu, was an equal to kid buu and even had the advantage at some, points in the fight. Since the manga is the most canonical source for information, it's absolutely true. wrong. well it wouldnt even be noticed by freeza if he was 100% final form. No, he didn't. Good day. Not a warrior like Goku or Vegeta. So despite the fact that Goku and Kid Buu fought on equal level, you placed Kid Buu 3 places ahead of Goku? "no he doesnt. re: Buutenks vs Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Goku ( BOG ) SuperSaiyan 3 Goku & the weaker Gohan. Yes ultimate Gohan is indeed stronger than ssj3 Goku BUT at that time Gokus ssj3 transformation was untrained so by the end of DBZ I believe Goku surpassed Gohan again but of youre talking about when super buu was around then yes he was.76.92.231.147 02:45, August 18, 2011 (UTC)BrownPrince2011 ssj gotenks x 7 = ssj2 gotenks. gohan is the strongest unfused character in dbz stated by AT so stop debating over it and realize:ssj3=unfused and gohan is the strongest unfused character in dbz!Dont think of metioning gotenks..you should know ultimate gohan is stronger than ssj3 gotenks. Gohan effortlessly handled Super Buu, so add a Piccolo and to baby SSJ, and Gohan was still going to do his thing. vs Buutenks - cries and tries to run away, fail and jobs vs Buucolo - hides behind Gohan. Goku didn't had enough energy to remain an ssj3 for a long time that is why he was counting on the fusion technique. User:Dbzfan999sig 18:21, October 25, 2011 (UTC)This is the right answer. If Gohan was as old and had the same experience as Goku it still wouldn't be good enough. and gohan was beating him up but doing no real damage. he had 5 years training uub to master ssj3. DBZ UT - Dragon Ball Multiverse - Cell's victory | La victoria de Célula by Homerloco. Goku trains 24/7. So he sends the boys to the ROSAT(Room Of Spirit And Time). Since gohan was weaker than goku at that point in the story and the unlocking ability made him stronger than super buu, I'd say so. 5:26. Gohan also gets smashed in like 2 hits. This is also the case for Movie 12, as seen when SSJ3 Goku was beaten up by Super Janemba, who is put around having equal strength as Super Buu. Robertstephenson31. 09:19, October 21, 2011 (UTC). I thing it was vegeta or sayian saga that to use spirit bomb you need pure energy or at least a decent energy.Now gohan couldnt give his energy because to unlease the power of SSJ2 you need the feeling of wrath and with that feeling your energy is impure.And if you remember Gohan tell to the elder Kai how he could unleashe his power and he say do your Super Sayian trick. So, no. goku in base is not as strong as ssj3 goku in z. my question is why the fuck didn't they just wish for immortality or infinite energy rather than energy restoration... WHAT THE FUCK. if the genki dama was moving onto kid buu with momentum he would have died. So clearly he could not. That's a perpetual fan myth. plus buu was greatly holding back. There are a couple times where its implied that Gohan is stronger. I don't care if the Kai's say anything, because I'm pretty sure at the beginning of DBZ, King Kai states how powerful Frieza is, but doesn't mention Majin Buu or Bills for that matter. no he didnt. Sure they untapped his true power but that doesnt mean thats his full strength. DBZ ultimate gohan vs ssj3 goku from dragon ball super I know that Ultimate Gohan/Mystic Gohan who fought super buu was stronger than SSJ 3 Goku from Buu saga. , so perhaps he could beat Super Buu as badly as Ultimate Gohan did. kid buu is massively weaker than super buu, maybe hundreds of times weaker.". Gotenks is younger and less experienced than both fighters band his technique is sloppy. SSJ3 Gotenks wasn't as strong as Super Buu either. Therefore, we can say that ssj3 goku was more powerful than ultimate gohan. gohan was immensely strong but not as strong as goku. super buu also had fat buu absorbed so he wasn't able to freely use his full potential because fat buu made him a little weaker. Another thing is, Piccolo believed SSJ1 Gotenks had a chance to beat Super Buu. for one, the massive MASSIVE gap between ssj2 gotenks and ssj2 goku, means the gap carries on to ssj3. Goku and vegeta both said that buu's strength is increasing when he was about to evolve into kid buu. Even more proof, SSJ3 Goku fighting Buuccolo told him he's not planning to beat him in that form(or something very similar). Ultimate Gohan was stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks, who fought Super Buu, and Goku said he couldnt beat Super Buu, Also it was stated somewhere that Gohan was the strongest non-fused guy by the end of DBZ (interview or something). Yes, I can see that Piccolo contradicted his own words about Gotenks able to win, but his statement about Gotenks powering up greatly isn't. Ultimate Gohan wouldn't have last anywhere near as long as ssj3 goku against kid buu, If he would have survived at at all. SSJ3 Goku also fought Buutenks for a minute, he did a terrible job and was also thrashed like a child. And that was because he was distracted. Goku also said that kid buu is twice as strong as ever before. prove to me goku overestimated gotenks please. . and lol kid buu is ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE NEAR gohan. Ultimate Gohan would be enough because Goku was hurting Janemba and Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Goku. But if we look at the end, then definitely goku is my choice. So overall, this has to be enough evidence to say Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks >>>> SSJ3 Goku. even base gotenks has the "strength of a ssj3""121.222.11.242 07:16, August 15, 2011 (UTC). - Tien 16:26, August 19, 2011 (UTC). So Goku's energy would run out a lot faster than Gohan's, leaving him very tired and a lot weaker. The fact is due to the fact he had Piccolo's brain. Then again at the time it stilled drained a lot of Goku's energy. Goku SSj3 is stronger than Ultimate Gohan, in GT. there is no need to divide up other people's posts and insert your 2 cents. But he is a fighting prodigy. And in GT, Gohan isn't "ultimate" anymore, as he can go SSJ, thus it shouldn't count on the topic about Ultimate Gohan. Therefore, even if Toriyama said in the interview that Gohan was the strongest unfused character in DBZ, why the hell would he make him getting beaten-up, or make Goku to beat Buu..Maybe he thought Gohan is the strongest, but Goku is the best... And started doing the whole "mind games" trick. not as much as they could give. But the only reasons Goku defeated Hirudegarn were through strategy (taking advantage of Hirudegarn's temper). Strength isn't everything) We know either Buutenks or Buuhan could beat Goku, but what about the Super Buu that Gotenks faced? He just wasted time and fucked everything up. This clearly shows he is far weaker then them both. and prove it can even be mastered. We all know that SSJ3 puts a very large strain on the users body, while with Gohan's unlocked potential, it's as if he is normal with no strain on his body or his energy level. gohan doesnt suck and he did train. After a week of training, Gotenks had increased greatly. The Elder Kai's mystical ritual boosted Gohan's latent abilities to unseen levels, augmented by additional training, effectively making Gohan's previous transformations largely obsolete. Remember Super Buu tried to destroy the world to but Vegito stopped him. Comparing Super Buu after he absorbed Gotenks and Mystic Gohan however was like comparing Frieza's third form to Piccolo on Namek. TheDragonThatHasLongSinceForgottenHisName 02:29, November 2, 2011 (UTC) On top of that AFTER he fought Kid Buu he said at full power he could beat him so obviously at full power he's stronger as he knew what Kid's strength was when he made that statement. So the gap is only 400 times at the most, which still proves nothing. plus piccolo was wrong. You guys may also be forgetting how Gotenks has a significant amount of fighting potential. He did in fact say he could definately beat fat buu. When Goku was dead he shouldnt have been the one to kill buu since he wasnt alive, but since he was fully alive theres no reason that Goku couldnt have killed Buu, unless of course he was weaker. That being said, one can't deny that the first name that comes to the mind of anyone who hears the words Dragon Ball is Son Goku.. It's all about the energy consumption rates though I wonder how much stronger gotenks would be if he was in other world. Gotenks was barely able to keep up with Super Buu in his SSj3 form, whereas Goku was stronger than Fat Buu, and >= to Kid Buu. What's for sure, Goku is stronger than Post-Rosat Gotenks who did evenly with Super Buu.174.94.74.35 00:03, March 14, 2013 (UTC)Not.from.here.guy. I just wanted to go out of my way to welcome you to our sub, because I first came here in a very similar manor. You have to be a good deal stronger than the spirit bomb to push it back even if the user had no power. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! "Now for starters, we know that SSJ3 Goku was stronger than Fat Buu. Still, Buutenks was certainly stronger than Kid Buu, so Ultimate Gohan edges it out but it's way closer than you stated. But the energy consumption rate for him is nowhere near as bad as gokus in the living world "I may be just a pothole in the road to you big guy, but it's going to be one hell of a deep pothole." --- you're a moron, read the post above you, if you still believe goku is stronger then you are actually a dumbass, name any argument about how goku is stronger, i guarantee i can disprove it. goku ssj3 is stronger than ultimate gohan. 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